Date: January 12, 2003
Location: University of Dayton, Alumni Hall Room 101
Meeting Topic: A dialogue on Dabru Emet (trans.: Tell the Truth)
Facilitator: Lillian Gillespie
Hosts: Connie Breen
Members: 29 Guests: 6
Thanks to Connie Breen for contributing the marvelous fruit and munchies that she prepared for us. We missed her presence, though, due to a prior commitment.
Remember to send your membership dues to Connie. Thanks also to Father Bert Buby for the devotional from Psalm 15. Thank you, Lillian, for your courage in quarterbacking the groups tackling “Dabru Emet”.
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Possibly some light and fire from the December Dialogue at Hanukkah lingered for the guests and members gathered in a Round-the-Tables fashion, at the January meeting of the Dayton Christian Jewish Dialogue. In the spirit of true dialogue, amidst the warmth of discussion, the groups leveled the playing field and bravely tackled some “hot topics” concerning both politics and religion. Each mini session focused on assigned paragraphs from the Year 2000 document, “Dabru Emet”, from the National Jewish Scholars Project.
In a miracle within itself, seventeen pages of Jewish scholars have signed their agreement to the following sentences which head up the paragraphs of the document concerning Christianity.
Jews and Christians worship the same God.
Jews and Christians seek authority from the same book--the Bible.
Christians can respect the claim of the Jewish people upon the land of Israel.
Jews and Christians accept the moral principles of Torah.
Nazism was not a Christian phenomenon.
The humanly irreconcilable difference between Jews and Christians will not be settled until God redeems the entire world as promised in Scripture.
A new relationship between Jews and Christians will not weaken Jewish practice.
Jews and Christians must work together for justice and peace.
Below is the signers’ reiteration of the prophecy from Isaiah concerning the future of the land of Israel and the nations of the world.
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the Word of the Lord from Jerusalem. Isaiah 2:2-3
Some thoughts and phrases from around the tables at the January Dialogue are written in approximation below. If you have enhancements, corrections or additional thoughts that you would like to write down, you may mail them to the return address or e-mail them to
“Because of the history of the past century, Israel as a political entity is very important to Jews.”
“There aren’t a large group of people in the world who “ see” (view with no prejudice) both peoples in the Land, Eretz Israel.”
From one of our guests: a previously heard comment from a Palestinian youth: “When I am at home and I am listening to Palestinian news and to Israeli news, I am getting the truth. But here in America, when I am listening to the news, I am not getting the truth.” Our guest then said, “In Nazi Germany where I was a child we knew there was no truth in the news. It was all propaganda. What has happened to the American news media?”
“Justice comes from us, not from God. He is “up there”. He has put justice in our hands down here.”
Fears of the unknown in other cultures, and lusts for power, which has the effect of demeaning people of other ethnic groups, are two negative features that have caused great harm, as recorded in history. Monstrosities have occurred under the guise of and in the name of Christianity, such as the Nazi regime in Germany and the Inquisition in Spain. But these happenings were not resulting from what Jesus taught. In those and other cases, Christianity was hi-jacked and used by terrorists to bring unimaginable harm to Jews and to true Christians.
Learning to dialogue can help us as individuals to take no offense at the most serious of disagreements.
New relationships between Jews and Christians can help to develop new strategies to challenge “old thinking.”
Donna Bealer, Secretary