UNIVERSITY OF DAYTON
DAYTON, OHIO
MINUTES OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE
March 23, 2001 - KU 310, 3:00 pm
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Presiding: Betty Youngkin
Senators Present: Bartlett, Bartley, Castellano, Conniff, Cox, Crum,
Dandaneau, DeConnick, Doyle, Dunne, Eimermacher, Erdei, Galioto, Geiger,
Gerla, Gould, Hall, Hary, Kearns, Korte, Lechleiter, Massucci, McKenna,
Morman, Saliba, Staubach, Youngkin, Yungblut
Guest: Dowdall, Mize, Rismiller, Walker
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1. Opening Prayer: The meeting opened with a reading by Senator Gould.
2. Roll Call: Twenty-eight of thirty-seven senators were present.
3. Approval of the Minutes: The minutes were approved with a spelling correction and an Academic
Senate assignment correction.
4. Alternative Grading System – I-00-16 – Senate document No.
01-02.
A proposal to add A-, B+, B-, and C+ to the undergraduate option 1
grading system, and A- and B+ to the graduate grading system was presented
by the Student Academic Policies Committee. In addition to the data and
rationale presented with the proposal, three additional items were pointed
out. First, Legal Affairs was contacted about the legality of changing the
grading system for students who were already enrolled. They responded that
it would be covered under the general policy that the "university
reserves the right to . . . . " Second, the chair of the Scholarship
Committee was asked about the impact of the grade change on students
losing their scholarship. He responded that it would not be a problem.
Third, the English, Communication and Mathematics departments were
contacted about the administrative impact of a C- grade in a competency
course. They did not respond.
The floor was opened to debate on the proposal.
An amendment to add a C- to the proposed undergraduate system was
offered, with the condition that the Academic Senate must explicitly
address the retake policy and competency program before the C- takes
effect. The following comments were made.
1. The English department is against the C-.
2. A C- is a necessary grade between a C and a D.
3. We already have two less than satisfactory grades below a C (D
and F). We don’t need a third.
4. A C- would be considered not minimally acceptable, but it is
not poor. The GPA penalty is not as severe.
5. There is too big of a drop between C and D.
6. Why do we need extra grades at the low end?
7. A D sends a better message than a C-.
8. C- entangles the competency program.
9. One goal would be to achieve fairness by showing less than
acceptable work with a C-.
10.The majority of the chairs in the College support the C- grade.
11.No faculty member is required to give a C- grade.
A vote was taken on the amendment to add a C- to the proposed
undergraduate option 1 grading system.
For: 16 Against: 9 Abstain: 0
The amendment passed.
An amendment to add a B- to the proposed graduate system was offered.
The following comments were made.
1. The faculty have not had enough time to consider the proposed
graduate system change. It was noted that all faculty were sent the
proposal several weeks ago. Furthermore, the Graduate Council was
strongly in favor of adding +/– grades.
2. The question was asked if the university would allow students
to receive a graduate degree with less than a 3.0000. The answer is
NO.
A vote was taken on the amendment to add a B- to the proposed graduate
system.
For: 13 Against: 10 Abstain: 2
The amendment passed.
A motion was made to separate the proposed undergraduate system from
the proposed graduate system. A vote was taken.
For: 19 Against: 3 Abstain: 3
The motion passed.
Comments were presented on the proposed undergraduate system.
1. A question was asked if students have the right to ask for a B+
if they have the "points." The question was answered as follows.
University regulations require instructors to communicate their grading system at the
beginning of the term. Instructors are expected to follow the university grading
system, but they do not have to give any particular grade.
2. It is a concern that instructors use different numerical scales
to determine a letter grade.
3. Must faculty adhere to the new standard? Yes, but only after the
retake policy and competency program have been re-examined. Instructors do not
have to use all of the grades available.
4. The proposed system puts extra emphasis on the GPA. We should be
more concerned with the whole person.
5. There will be extra pressure placed on students. They will
spend more time studying and less time on service.
6. Only a minority of the faculty responded to the survey, so can
we legally do this? Would this be analogous to needing at least one-half of the
faculty to vote on a constitutional amendment? NO. The Academic Senate has
legislative authority on this issue.
7. Can we do this measurement more precisely than we do now?
8. The proposed system will hurt "A" students.
A motion was made to call the question.
For: 13 Against: 10 Abstain: 1
The question is called.
The vote on the proposed undergraduate option 1 grading system with a
C- included was taken.
For: 15 Against: 11 Abstain: 0
The proposal passed.
Comments regarding the proposed change to the graduate grading system
were solicited. The question was called.
For: 13 Against: 11 Abstain: 2
The question is called.
The vote on the proposed graduate grading system with a B- included was
taken.
For: 13 Against: 10 Abstain: 3
The proposal passed.
5. Announcements
It was pointed out that the faculty would soon be asked to vote on two
amendments to the Constitution of the Academic Senate. All senators are
urged to encourage their constituency to vote.
6. A Discussion with the Presidential Search Consultant
Senator Geiger introduced Dr Jean Dowdall to the Academic Senate,
citing her many credentials. Dr Dowdall was asked to make a few
introductory comments.
Dr Dowdall explained that although there will be a good amount of
advertising, she will recruit extensively. It is likely that she will
approach people who do not know what UD is, and do not have an immediate
interest in us. Due to this type of approach there will be a high level of
confidentiality maintained until the individual is committed to visiting
the campus. A document, previously distributed to the Academic Senate,
will be used to attract potential candidates. The Senate was asked to
comment on the document.
The Student Academic Policy Committee responded with the following
remarks.
a. The university should have a president who lives by the
motto: learn, lead, and serve.
b. The new president must understand that we are a community,
and s/he must be part of that community.
c. The new president must be open-minded and committed to
student issues.
d. The new president must have the ability to gain student
support, must be experienced and comfortable with young adults,
and must keep a close connection with students.
e. The new president should have an on-campus presence.
f. The presidential candidates should have an open forum with
students.
It was suggested that the following questions could be asked of the
presidential candidates.
1. How would you maintain contact with the students?
2. What are your expectations in dividing your time between
on-campus and off-campus activities?
3. What are your thoughts on student diversity? Does it need
to be increased, and how would you do it?
The Academic Policies Committee recommended the following
presidential qualifications.
1. The new president needs significant academic experience,
including both undergraduate and graduate teaching, academic
research, curriculum development, and administration.
2. S/he should understand UD’s educational programs such as
general education and an integrative curriculum.
The following discussions should take place.
1. Interact with faculty groups such as the Executive
Committee of the Academic Senate, General Education Committee,
or AAC of the College.
2. What is the candidate’s view on tenure?
3. What is the candidate’s view on the composition of
instructional staff, workload policies, and compensation
policies?
4. What are the views of the candidate on the complementary
roles of undergraduate and graduate education?
Dr Dowdall’s response to the SAPC comments was that the new
president must be a significant fundraiser. S/he might find it hard to
be on campus. The SAPC counter-responded that there are many other
administrators who do fundraising.
Dr Dowdall’s response to the APC was that the new president will
not be the chief academic officer, and will not likely be as involved
with faculty and academic issues as the faculty might like.
The Faculty Affairs Committee offered the following questions.
1. How will the candidate impact the Catholic/Marianist
identity?
2. How will academic standards be impacted?
3. What will be the ratio of time spent on- and off-campus?
4. Where does the candidate see the university in relation to
other universities?
Comments were taken from the floor
1. The written qualifications do not require the new president to
interact with faculty or students.
2. An AAUP representative stated that the new president must
endorse academic freedom, and specifically address the impact of Ex
Corde Ecclesiae.
3. Concern was expressed that the new president would be from a
corporate background. Dr Dowdall commented that the search committee
will look widely, but will probably end up with an academic person.
4. A question was asked if there would be a good mix of religious
background in the candidates. Dr Dowdall responded that there would
likely be a mix, but stressed that Marianists will be heavily
involved. Nevertheless, a layperson could be picked.
5. It was noted that students at UD demand a lot of the faculty
and the president.
6. There is concern at the university that we are in a less than
stable situation. It is troublesome that the provost is leaving, the
chief financial officer has left, there is talk that some other high
administrators may soon leave, and many faculty members are
retiring.
7. It was again stated that the candidate should have a strong
academic background. Dr Dowdall responded that the new president
will have academic input, but will not dominate the academic scene.
8. It was noted that there are errors of fact in the Presidential
Search Document. Also, the description of the College is not
recognizable. It will be corrected.
9. It was expressed that we are putting too many demands on the
presidential candidate.
10. We need an explicit written statement on academic freedom
from the candidates.
11. Senators were asked to communicate to the search committee
any names of individuals who might make a good candidate.
12. It is important that the new president be flexible enough to
deal with fundraising, empower administrators, and interact with
students.
13. It is important that divisions (especially deans) comment on
the candidates.
14. The profile of the candidate should stress intellectual
excellence.
15. A question was asked about the level to which references
would be checked. Dr Dowdall responded that in the preliminary
stages only the candidates’ references would be checked. In later
stages reference checks will be extended. In fact, the candidate
will be asked to supply names of critics to his or her positions.
16. Dr Dowdall was asked about the depth and timing of her role
in the search. She responded that she would be heavily involved
until the candidates come to campus. At that point she will
significantly reduce her presence in the process.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:55 pm.
Respectfully submitted: George R. Doyle, Jr., Secretary of the Academic
Senate